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Poster: CharlieMiller Date: Dec 7, 2011 8:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show You've Been To? Dead-related

GD 10/11/83 MSG

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Dec 8, 2011 9:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show You've Been To? Dead-related

MSG 10/11/1983 was pretty darn loud...but I think the crowd noise when St Stephen started was louder than the band.

The loudest Dead show I attended was http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-03-13.martin.warner.21918.sbeok.flacf

There was point in the show where it felt like the sound went through one ear right through the middle of my brain and then roaring out the other ear...there were people freaking out all around me, sonic bombarment.

There was one time (don't recall the year) in Ventura where they played Little Red Rooster so loud I watched a woman collapse when Phil dropped a nuclear bomb on us...again lots of people freaking out as it occured.

A show in Hartford when they did Louie Louie, the slide parts on Sampson and D was excrutiatingly loud...

I think the peak levels at a Dead show could be louder than anything any other band can put out, it's just that they didn't keep it there the whole stinking show.

Probabaly the loudest thing I've subjected my ears to was an Indigo Girls show at the Paramount in SEA. 2500 seats, two chicks with acoustic guitars, and they blasted it so loud and distorted that I left...it was horrible. Unlistenable garbeled garbage. The sound guy for that facility must be deaf.




This post was modified by Little Sense on 2011-12-08 17:54:50

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Dec 8, 2011 6:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show You've Been To? Dead-related

Those early 80's shows at the garden were loud 82 as well - remember having ears ringing for day after each of those and going back second night still ringing

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Dec 7, 2011 8:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show You've Been To? Dead-related

Were the stadiums always much louder? For example if they went from Radio City, to MSG on the same tour, could you expect the MSG show to be much louder?

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 7, 2011 9:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

12-26-79 has a unique story behind its introduction of the Meyer hd 1 sound

Reviewer: Mark Scalise - - June 29, 2010
Subject: searching for the sound
This show also premiered the first of the great Meyer/UltraSound PAs. Excerpt from http://mixonline.com/live/applications/audio_necessity_mothers_invention/

As it turned out, for the grand experimenters, even the best rental systems didn't suffice. For the Dead's 1979 New Years Eve show at Oakland Auditorium, Healy and Starship soundman Don Pearson pooled their favorite components. The resulting five-way stereo system took days to assemble. Among other features, it had specially welded frames that held giant tweeter arrays. Horseshoe magnets served as air-motion [ribbon] transformers that were assembled in long vertical arrays and hung from scaffolding. Pearson says, “We built custom crossovers so we could align the individual components in time. It was, actually, the first-ever Time-Aligned™ live sound system.” [Eds. note: Time-Aligned™ is a trademark of E.M. Long and Associates.] It was also, according to Healy, such a great-sounding system that “we decided to get back into the business.”

“It was probably the best-sounding P.A. we ever did — to date!” adds Pearson. “It's interesting to note that back then we were working on a technology design that just now is becoming very in vogue. We're currently seeing the advent of ribbon speakers, something we were using in 1978!”

The system put together that night evolved into a company owned by Pearson and Howard Danchik that serviced both the Dead and Starship. In 1979, Meyer's newly patented ACD studio monitors caught the ears of Starship and their monitor mixer, Owsley Stanley; the reaction was immediate. “Owsley went out and raised capital for us to build the first Ultra Monitors for Starship,” says Pearson. “They were John Meyer's first official product. Then we built Starship a P.A. and then the Dead had to have one.”


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I pasted that in from a review I remember reading a while back.

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 7, 2011 9:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

My first show was 9 months later in lewiston, Maine.
9-6-80, which was THE loudest dead show i ever attended.

The deads sound in general was very very different show to show, night to night year to year. I found myself wanting and a little aggravated with the consistency of what their system sounded like to my ears. I always wanted more volume. You had to search out the the sweet spot, stadium shows you just had to be down low and that sound was easily the cleanest deepest I have ever heard. hockey barn/ theatre shows were more strict on the seating policy's? You could get fucked in the netherzones rather easily. I remember a behind the stage ticket that
Actually sounded great.

Cal expo may have been the tops
Deer creek was loud especially outside on the lawn right below the repeaters, merriweather esque
Spectrum was the worst sounding shows for me, Always
Nassau was better than average for the barns
Boston Garden descent not great





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Poster: cberg Date: Dec 8, 2011 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

agreed...cal expo...the best!!

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Dec 8, 2011 11:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

Greek Theater in Berkely had the best sound, hands down, nothing even close. If you got one of the thrones in the middle you were in sonic heaven! Almost like full body headphones.

The Philthy Rectum definitly sounded horrible. Great shows, but you had to work for it.

I had experiences at MSG where it was not loud enough, we would cup our hands behind the ears and focus the sound in order to block out the yackers and sing-alongs, not to mention the white guy got no rythmn clappers.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 8, 2011 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

I agree re Greek and Spectrum, but I found MSG to have great sound on the floor (was a few rows in front of soundboard for the LaBamba/Dew show).

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Poster: utopian Date: Dec 8, 2011 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Loudest Show ....and one of my favorites too

Ha ha, yea I remember cupping my ears too!

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